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Poster: tigerbolt Date: Jul 13, 2007 8:55pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: nice pic of the boys in the zone from 2-14-70

check out billy the kid,he's feeling it :)Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Jul 13, 2007 11:40pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: nice pic of the boys in the zone from 2-14-70

wow, tiger that is a sweet one, thanks!

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Poster: He Live's Date: Jul 13, 2007 6:37am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: nice pic of the boys in the zone from 2-14-70

ok....i've got 3-24-70 at pirates world on....cold rain & snow:

gd70-03-24.sbd.miller.32054.sbeok.flacf d1t05

thanks tigerbolt...i had been trying to find some photos recently and this is hot....not readily available....thanks

everybody LOOKS PERFECTLY WEIRD....just perfectly weird....and like they are some thin little waif models and shit. oh it is tooooo cool.....phil looks like he is processing some very choice acid....".....fuck....what is bobby PLAYYYing....???"

now Dark Star:

gd70-03-24.sbd.miller.32054.sbeok.flacf d2t01

fine, someone will bitch me out for puttin on pirates world instead of the show from this photo....but it doesnt matter -- because this photo is timeless, they are some kids with open minds. much to be said for that. beautiful music from these far gone sons of the atomic age stopped to gaze at the abyss ....yeah yeah ok the abyss i know but tell me these four never stood there:

RECAPTURE THE ABYSS!!! come one come all!!! dont bring more than you can carry ....careful to keep your mouth shut in a tight spot and speak when called upon. and check on ya boy.... sons and daughters!....make sure no one is left behind....

REALLY....give me more photo links TBOLT, you are some kind i know....

This post was modified by Diana Hamilton on 2007-07-13 13:37:36

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Poster: wineland Date: Jul 14, 2007 8:29am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: nice pic of the boys in the zone from 2-14-70

Nice pic, thanks! Oh to be there... alas, it was 6 months before I was born.

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Poster: ghostofpig Date: Jul 14, 2007 10:26am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: nice pic of the boys in the zone from 2-14-70

It was quite a night. And, yes, Owsley, there was a first show.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jul 14, 2007 10:51am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: nice pic of the boys in the zone from 2-14-70

Valentine's Day - am I to assume that Pig ensured to the best of his ability that no one was playing pocket pool but introducing themselves to the young lovely dancing next to them?

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Poster: ghostofpig Date: Jul 14, 2007 12:27pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: nice pic of the boys in the zone from 2-14-70

Yes, during the first show--the one Owsley swears never happened!!

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jul 14, 2007 1:56pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: nice pic of the boys in the zone from 2-14-70

I think that is one aspect of the boys that gets too easily overlooked - the mixing and mingling of the audience. Strangers stopping strangers and all that. I met a lot of women at shows, some of whom I became very close to and some that were just a nice memory of that run of shows. I don't think one walked away from a weekend of Slayer shows having the same experience (but, as usual, I could be wrong).

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Poster: Max Chorak Date: Jul 14, 2007 3:56pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: nice pic of the boys in the zone from 2-14-70

to be a generalizing schmuck:

a lot of people deemed "hippies" like the dead, "hippies" are deemed to be more open minded and friendly.. that amiability (is that a word?) leads to that whole connection I think. I think it would go on at a slayer show, just on a smaller level. Not that you were saying slayerheads aren't nice, even thouhg one could easily think this from their demeanor, but i know a lot of metalheads that are pretty nice people

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jul 14, 2007 3:59pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: nice pic of the boys in the zone from 2-14-70

I'm not slamming Slayer or metalheads - one of the more intense musical experiences I ever had was at a Slayer show and I think Tool is one of the most interesting bands of the last 20 years. Indeed, Nine Inch Nails (not metal per se, but you get the point) was how I spent my law school graduation night. My buddy got me front row tix as a gift and I blew off the ceremony for that. Great, great show.

The point I was trying to make was that at least during the period when I caught most of my shows (early to mid-80s), the scene was pretty evenly split between the sexes and there was an awful lot of interaction between people from all walks of life. In short, there was plenty of "hooking up" between the sexes. Of course, a lot of this sprung from the fact that folks were often camping out in the same locale for several days in a row as opposed to the one night show coming to town. I just have not been to many other shows where the female contingent was as strong and as inviting (although I can name some exceptions). Bottom line is you were a lot more likely to show up solo and leave with someone at a dead show that at any other concert I've been to. For me, at least, that had an awful to do with the pull of the "scene".

It's one in ten thousand that comes for the show....

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Poster: ghostofpig Date: Jul 14, 2007 8:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: "Speed, acid, lids?"

Plenty o' hook ups at the Fillmore East. All you had to do was tell 'em Pig Pen said it was okay.

But as to the vibe--remember that the Hell's Angels' New York Chapter headquarters were all but next door.

Vroom, vroom.

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Poster: Capt. Cook Date: Jul 15, 2007 10:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'Speed, acid, lids?'

born in 62 i came of age somewhat late, a lid even in 75-76 was a thing of the past. Where did that name come from. I can never ever remember buying a lid, seeing a lid, and I guess I wish i could ride in the GhostofPig wayback machine, figure it all out or at least sit back and let it all happen....

by the way ghost i for one am a big fan...

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Poster: ghostofpig Date: Jul 16, 2007 7:13am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'Speed, acid, lids?'

A lid came from the amount of marijuana that fit in the "lid" of a Prince Albert tobacco tin. The weed was placed in bulk into the 1 ounce cans. The culture terminology for decades was that you bought a "can" of weed. The bulk of weed that stacked on the lid of the Prince Albert can sold for a lesser price and was called a "lid" of grass. These were all bulk approximations and nobody needed a scale when they purchased a "can or lid" of marijuana.

Lids on the street varied from 1/4 to an ounce to whatever.

Perhaps this is how Prince Albert got stuck in that can in the first place.

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Poster: dc2 Date: Jul 16, 2007 9:03am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'Speed, acid, lids?'

Excellent answer to that Prince Albert question. I learn so much here. Thank you Ghostofpig.

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Poster: BryanE Date: Jul 16, 2007 8:50am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'Speed, acid, lids?'

Now that is some arcane trivia right there. Can't recall if you've ever mentioned your line of work. Linguistics a vocation or just a hobby?

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Poster: nagdot Date: Jul 16, 2007 9:40am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'Speed, acid, lids?'

we called a lid a baggie full of weed with it being filled all the way with just the flap or lid left to close. like you said could be 1/4 ounce bud or ounce plus. our reference to prince albert was 2 things: choco mesc in caplets or a strip club in niagra falls canada

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Poster: Edsel Date: Jul 16, 2007 8:21am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'Speed, acid, lids?'

My basic recollection is that a lid was approximately an ounce on Haight Street in the summer/fall of '67. 32 lids from a key, and the rest was for the house. You could get a lid for $6.00 if you knew the right person, otherwise $10 was the street cost. Damn, that was a long time ago.

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Poster: nagdot Date: Jul 16, 2007 9:38am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'Speed, acid, lids?'

i remember a nickel bag bein 5 bux, a dime 10 bux ,a lid was 25 bux. late 70s early 80s

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Poster: winslow's 25m Date: Jul 16, 2007 9:24am
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weights were secondary.........if you got a good deal on a key [$50-75 ] in was passed on to the consumer.........4 fingers

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Poster: Max Chorak Date: Jul 14, 2007 9:53am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: nice pic of the boys in the zone from 2-14-70

I just noticed phil has the t-rexxed right hand going, and i cant figure out where the right proportions really are cuz of the light

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Poster: Capt. Cook Date: Jul 13, 2007 9:33pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: nice pic of the boys in the zone from 2-14-70

I love how they are all wearing the same Fillmore East T-Shirt. I am sure Bill Graham had his hand in that one! How much do you think Jerry's T would sell for nowadays. Probally be held under lockandkey by "His Estate" like everythink else he ever owned or did or thought about. (Slight tangent there...)

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Poster: Max Chorak Date: Jul 13, 2007 11:08pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: nice pic of the boys in the zone from 2-14-70

awesome picture :D they look do(u)sed


I just saw this video of 2/14/70.. the dark star was neat to see on cam